November 16th, 2006
I guess the UCLA police were tired of LAPD getting all the attention, so they went and tased a student in the library. They were doing an ID check and the student didn't have it. The ID checker then brought police officers to escort him from the premises. During the escort, an officer grabbed the student's arm. The student started yelling "get off me" according to reports, at which point a police officer tased him. The student reportedly refused to get up afterward, so a police officer tased him again.
Another student shot some video and posted it on youTube.
Moral of the story: whenever going to the UCLA library, be damn sure you have your ID.
UPDATE, 1:51PM: CNN has an article as well, but don't mention the video (no suprise) nor does it mention the unnecessary contact from the police. Rather, CNN states that the student "encouraged others at the library to join his resistance, and when a crowd began to gather, police used the stun gun on him." It also doesn't mention the additional tasings on the ground. And this is a "world leader" in news? o.O
Current Mood: disappointed
|Date:||November 16th, 2006 10:40 pm (UTC)|| |
I wonder what Kap's take on this is... being out inside-man and all.
|Date:||November 16th, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC)|| |
Me too- we'll probably get an update from him on the situation as soon as he has the time (and energy) to type it all out. That man has been working himself really hard lately :/
|Date:||November 17th, 2006 03:42 am (UTC)|| |
Let me rephrase that :P Adam is one of the hardest working individuals I know, no questions about it; it just seems lately since he started on this new research project he's been working double time for even himself. It amazes me how hard, how many hours of work that man puts in every day often for the sacrifice for others.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't implying he's lazy. I just worry he's pushing himself too hard I guess.
HAHA I was just giving you a hard time.
And I love how we banter back and forth about someone else in jev's lj. HAHA!
|Date:||November 17th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)|| |
I knew you were giving me a hard time :P But you know me- I have that nasty little tendancy to over-explain things even when it's not needed.
*waves hello to jevim* :P
|Date:||November 17th, 2006 07:57 pm (UTC)|| |
Hey, I'm just keeping an eye open for rumors I haven't seen yet. ;-)
|Date:||November 16th, 2006 10:40 pm (UTC)|| |
I don't mean to be prejudice- but something tells me that his name 'Mostafa Tabatabainejad' might have had something to do with it. Granted he did resist arrest and such- but he wasn't fighting back. All he did was go limp as they carried him out and started shouting for supporters- nothing in my mind that warrents being tasered, especially multiple times.
I'm in total agreeance with you on this one.... I've been seeing this story on the news for the past couple of days, and yeah, the name probably wasn't a good thing for the poor guy, but alledgedly (note that word since we, the public, will probably never know the full truth since there are always two sides to every story) he resisted arrest. Now, he's hired a civil attorney balking about civil rights. It's just a mess.... I feel sorry for him, I really do, but honestly, in my opinion, I don't think he helped himself.... I think his attitude was that they were out to get him anyway.
|Date:||November 17th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)|| |
I concur- he didn't help himself in a lot of ways. He didn't have his ID so he shouldn't have been in the library. When he was asked to leave he should have just done so peacefully. Instead, for reasons we'll never truly know, he decided to resist or fight back on some level (as you said, we'll never know the true details). He aggravated the situation when there was no need to.
Still, at the same time the over-reaction and use of force against him was also totally unwarranted. And it's sad to see because it's becomming more commonplace every day- Police get to use tasers like toys because they're considered non-lethal and leave no permanent injury.
No, no, that's what I said, he did not help himself (not in so many words, but still...).... he mouthed off, he bitched about "Patriot Acts", we, the public, couldn't see if he really did resist getting up, and what's worse, the police enjoyed their toys too much. From my perspective, I feel sorry for him because I know of the damage those tasers can do to the nerves/nervous system, but I seriously think that kid wanted to find a reason to make this a civil issue. As I said, THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
Howver, in all your posts over this, I agree with you 100%! Kudos to you.... :-)
If I remember correctly from watching Jackass, the guys who were tased were in a lot of pain and had problems moving around afterwords. The difference is that the Jackass guys knew it was coming, and had time to 'prepare' and weren't in such a volatile situation. Plus, there are a significant number of instances where people have died from being tased. Was the risk to the officers so great in this situation that they had to incapacitate him and risk killing him? I think any reasonable person would answer NO to that question considering the number of officers surrounding the victim. Remember, this was a guy who refused to show his ID. The laws that govern UCLA cannot be so vastly different from the laws the LAPD abide by. As a citizen of the united states you are NOT required to carry identification with you at all times, and you are NOT required to show it to the police upon request. The only mistake this guy made was to not leave when asked, and I wouldn't put it past the cops to have lied about this.
|Date:||November 17th, 2006 12:32 pm (UTC)|| |
This was one of the lead stories on The Young Turks on Air America Radio (liberal talk radio) this morning. Ths show is broadcast out of LA, so I'm sure that's part of the reason. But word is getting out. (Including the video and the tasing.)